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Wez Furlong

21 years ago

How many people are seriously using Win9x with PHP?

There are quite a few APIs that are either server-only or Win2k and up
that PHP would benefit from using. Before we just go ahead and use
them (breaking support for Win9x) I thought it would be a good idea to
find out how many people this will affect.

So, if you use, or know of someone that uses PHP on Win95, Win98 or
WinME, please add a comment to my blog [1] (so that we don't spam the
mailing lists with it) explaining why, so we can guage how much of an
impact bumping the version requirements for PHP would have.

Thanks!

--Wez

[1] http://netevil.org/node.php?uuid=42d7a64c-ffb7-0029-3508-2d7a64c62bef

Derick Rethans

21 years ago

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Wez Furlong wrote:

> How many people are seriously using Win9x with PHP?
>
> There are quite a few APIs that are either server-only or Win2k and up
> that PHP would benefit from using. Before we just go ahead and use
> them (breaking support for Win9x) I thought it would be a good idea to
> find out how many people this will affect.
>
> So, if you use, or know of someone that uses PHP on Win95, Win98 or
> WinME, please add a comment to my blog [1] (so that we don't spam the
> mailing lists with it) explaining why, so we can guage how much of an
> impact bumping the version requirements for PHP would have.

WIn95 Support was already dropped some time ago, wasn't it?

Derick

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Nuno Lopes

21 years ago

> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Wez Furlong wrote:
>
>> How many people are seriously using Win9x with PHP?
>>
>> There are quite a few APIs that are either server-only or Win2k and up
>> that PHP would benefit from using. Before we just go ahead and use
>> them (breaking support for Win9x) I thought it would be a good idea to
>> find out how many people this will affect.
>>
>> So, if you use, or know of someone that uses PHP on Win95, Win98 or
>> WinME, please add a comment to my blog [1] (so that we don't spam the
>> mailing lists with it) explaining why, so we can guage how much of an
>> impact bumping the version requirements for PHP would have.
>
> WIn95 Support was already dropped some time ago, wasn't it?
>
> Derick

Yep:

Version 5.0.0 Beta 3 (21-Dec-2003)
- Dropped Windows 95 support. (Andi)

Nuno

Edin Kadribasic

21 years ago

On Friday 15 July 2005 14:28, Nuno Lopes wrote:

> > WIn95 Support was already dropped some time ago, wasn't it?
> >
> > Derick
>
> Yep:
>
> Version 5.0.0 Beta 3 (21-Dec-2003)
>  - Dropped Windows 95 support. (Andi)

Windows 98, ME and NT are still supported. I guess Wez was asking if we should
make Windows 2000 minimum requirement, which I think we should.

Edin

Zeev Suraski

21 years ago

At 15:07 15/07/2005, Wez Furlong wrote:

>How many people are seriously using Win9x with PHP?
>
>There are quite a few APIs that are either server-only or Win2k and up
>that PHP would benefit from using. Before we just go ahead and use
>them (breaking support for Win9x) I thought it would be a good idea to
>find out how many people this will affect.
>
>So, if you use, or know of someone that uses PHP on Win95, Win98 or
>WinME, please add a comment to my blog [1] (so that we don't spam the
>mailing lists with it) explaining why, so we can guage how much of an
>impact bumping the version requirements for PHP would have.

My 2c is that I haven't seen any Win9x user using PHP for the past 3 or 4
years (that's one cent), and that the Zend range of products that supports
Windows (including Studio, Optimizer and WinEnabler) requires Windows 2000
at minimum (even NT is not supported), and I don't recall a single
complaint about it in the last 2 years (the 2nd cent).

I'd say go for it.

Zeev

Steph

21 years ago

My 2p:

I used to build regularly on Win98 until last summer, and supplied fixes for
a couple of platform-specific PHP bugs and build issues up until that point.
Nobody else on the internals circuit had access to Win98 then, and nobody's
actively supported it since I stopped.  The test suite has never worked
(something to do with the way pipes aren't used AFAICR) which means that any
bugfixing there is totally reliant on external bug reports.

I no longer have access to Win98 on a regular basis, and the available
evidence suggests that most PHP users don't either.

A brief search in the bugs db reveals just two open reports, both dating
from last summer - one is really an IE 6.0 report about talks.php.net and
the other's a PHP-GTK report about encoding.  Neither are remotely relevant
to PHP per se.

There's only ONE bug report open for NT (actually for NT 4) - against what
is now pecl/printer, and dated 1993.

So yep - I'd say go for it, too.

- Steph


----- Original Message -----
From: "Zeev Suraski" <zeev@zend.com>
To: "Wez Furlong" <kingwez@gmail.com>
Cc: "PHPdev" <internals@lists.php.net>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Win9x support in PHP