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Matthias Pigulla

20 years ago

If I got that right, you still want to discourage {} and un-deprecate []
again, despite all the good reasons given on this list not to do so?

PHP5.1 would be accomplishing facts as to this one. ("Let's remove {}
altogether in 6 - nobody should be using them anyway as they were
deprecated since 5.1").

The discussion on this list would be silenced and take place "out there"
with a much broader audience instead.

Changing language syntax that way back and forth again will cause a loss
in credibility - once again after the 4.4.0 release.

-mp.

Derick Rethans

20 years ago

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Matthias Pigulla wrote:

> Changing language syntax that way back and forth again will cause a loss
> in credibility - once again after the 4.4.0 release.

If you prefer a PHP which causes strange crashses and memory
corruptions, please downgrade to 4.3.11. I am getting tired about this
bickering about this **FIX** that makes PHP stable.

Derick

Robert Cummings

20 years ago

On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 08:50, Derick Rethans wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Matthias Pigulla wrote:
>
> > Changing language syntax that way back and forth again will cause a loss
> > in credibility - once again after the 4.4.0 release.
>
> If you prefer a PHP which causes strange crashses and memory
> corruptions, please downgrade to 4.3.11. I am getting tired about this
> bickering about this **FIX** that makes PHP stable.

I'm fine with the dropping of curly braces, but your attempt to rename
this issue as a **FIX** is a bit arrogant and condescending. But maybe
you know of some crashes directly related to curly braces, or maybe
we're expected to swallow that the deprecation of [] in favour of {} as
posted on the official site and now apparent in many language reference
books... was a typo.

Cheers,
Rob.

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Derick Rethans

20 years ago

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Robert Cummings wrote:

> On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 08:50, Derick Rethans wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Matthias Pigulla wrote:
> >
> > > Changing language syntax that way back and forth again will cause a loss
> > > in credibility - once again after the 4.4.0 release.
> >
> > If you prefer a PHP which causes strange crashses and memory
> > corruptions, please downgrade to 4.3.11. I am getting tired about this
> > bickering about this **FIX** that makes PHP stable.
>
> I'm fine with the dropping of curly braces, but your attempt to rename
> this issue as a **FIX** is a bit arrogant and condescending.

Huh, I was talking about the reference issue, not about the curlies.

Derick

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Robert Cummings

20 years ago

On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 09:37, Derick Rethans wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 08:50, Derick Rethans wrote:
> > > On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Matthias Pigulla wrote:
> > >
> > > > Changing language syntax that way back and forth again will cause a loss
> > > > in credibility - once again after the 4.4.0 release.
> > >
> > > If you prefer a PHP which causes strange crashses and memory
> > > corruptions, please downgrade to 4.3.11. I am getting tired about this
> > > bickering about this **FIX** that makes PHP stable.
> >
> > I'm fine with the dropping of curly braces, but your attempt to rename
> > this issue as a **FIX** is a bit arrogant and condescending.
>
> Huh, I was talking about the reference issue, not about the curlies.

*lol* Sorry, the subject confused me then :)

Cheers,
Rob.

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| also provides an extremely flexible architecture for       |
| creating re-usable components quickly and easily.          |
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