namespace separator poll, update

>> Sara Golemon |-| | | +1 | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | >> > To flesh-out my overall vote:

> %% -2 > ( : ) {whitespace}":"{whitespace} -2 > ::: Shalosh Nekudotayim +2 > ::< Paamayim Nekudotayim-LessThan -1 > :< Sad-Smiley -2 > (<- ) "<-"{whitespace} -2

> \ Backslash -2*10^100

> \\ Double Backslash -2*10^100 > <:: LessThan-Paamayim Nekudotayim +0 > <: Back-Goofy-Smiley -2 > .. Short Elipsis -1

> Other possibilities: > ** Double-Star +2 > ;; Double-Semicolon +2 >>>> Reverse Heredoc Operator -1 > ?? Double Question -1

> > Other possibilities: > ** Double-Star +2 > ;; Double-Semicolon +2 > >>> Reverse Heredoc Operator -1 > ?? Double Question -1 > > -Sara

> > Gah! I have to squint and count the colons in something like > System:::Socket:::Pair::open(). Yikes. > > My vote is for \. > > -Andrei > > > On Nov 27, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Oliver Grätz wrote: > >> Hi *! >> >> I updated the table with the comments in the thread. >> First of all: YES, these won't work as operator: >> >> - "<-" means "less than the negative value of" >> - ":" collides with the ternary >> >> BUT the discussion is not only about possibility but also about what you >> would like. The ":" for example would work if mandatory whitespace would >> be introduced for the ternary BUT this is very very bad. >> >> Regarding the other suggestions, ":::" seems to be something almost >> everybody could at least live with. >> >> OLLi >> >> >> Updated table follows: >> Second update: >> >> Namespace Operators >> ====================================================================== >> ================================================== >> Name |s| %% |( : )| ::: | ::< | :< |(<- )| :> | \ | -> >> | \\ | <:: | <: | .. | | | | >> ---------------------+-+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----- >> +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+ >> Robert Deaton |-| +0 | | -1 | | | -2 | +1 | | >> | | | | | | | | >> Alan Knowles |-| | +1 | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | >> Greg Beaver |-| | +0 | +0 | +0 | +0 | | +0 | +0 | +1 >> | +1 | +0 | +0 | | | | | >> Jessie Hernandez |-| +1 | +1 | +2 | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | >> Matt Friedman |-| | | -1 | | | +1 | | -1 | >> | | +1 | +1 | | | | | >> David Zülke |-| | | +2 | | | +1 | -1 | | >> | | | -1 | | | | | >> Oliver Grätz |*| +2 | +2 | +1 | -1 | +0 | -2 | +0 | -2 | -2 >> | -2 | +0 | +0 | -2 | | | | >> Matthew C. Kavanagh |-| -1 | | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | >> Jasper Bryant-Greene |-| | | | | -1 | +1 | -1 | | >> | | | -1 | | | | | >> Eric Coleman |-| -1 | +2 | | | | +1 | +1 | -1 | >> | | | | | | | | >> Christian Stocker |-| | | | | -1 | | -1 | +1 | >> | | | -1 | | | | | >> Stanislav Malyshev |-| | | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | >> Jared Williams |-| | | | | | | | | +1 >> | | | | | | | | >> Jason Garber |-| | | | | | | | | >> | | | | +1 | | | | >> Nicolas Bérard Nault |-| -2 | | | | | +2 | | +1 | >> | | | | | | | | >> Sara Golemon |-| | | +1 | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | >> Jacques Marneweck |*| -1 | -1 | +2 | -1 | -1 | -1 | -1 | -1 | -1 >> | +0 | -1 | -1 | +0 | | | | >> Sean Coates |-| | | +1 | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | >> |-| | | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | >> |-| | | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | >> |-| | | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | >> |-| | | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | >> ---------------------+-+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----- >> +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+ >> sum (2 counts 2) | | -2 | +5 | +7 | -2 | -3 | +1 | -2 | -3 | -1 >> | -1 | 0 | -3 | -1 | | | | >> sum (2 counts 1) | | -2 | +3 | +4 | -2 | -3 | +2 | -2 | -2 | 0 >> | 0 | 0 | -3 | 0 | | | | >> sum (counting +/-) | | -1 | +4 | +5 | -1 | -1 | +2 | 0 | -1 | 0 >> | +1 | +2 | -1 | +1 | | | | >> ====================================================================== >> ================================================== >> >> Notes: >> - I took >> +2 as "likes" >> +1 as "is fine with" >> +0 as "can live with" >> -1 as "dislikes" >> -2 as "hates" >> empty for "no comment, no opinion, don't care" >> - Please don't enter anything other than these values! >> - The "s" column stands for "self-filled". I compiled the current >> table from the comments in this newsgroup, so perhaps I didn't >> get their comments right. >> - The operators : <- -> could make big problems with the parser. >> More complaints to follow. *g* >> - Feel free to add new suggestions to the right. >> - If you add your name at the bottom, please copy the free line >> so the next one also has a free one. >> - Do only edit the votes in *your* line! >> - Correct the sums if you post. >> - Please post as attachment! >> >> If some of the operators are definitely impossible to implement, >> please put the headline of column in parentheses (as in "(<-)") >> ans add a note why this operator can't be done (Hi Marcus *g*). >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >

> Gah! I have to squint and count the colons in something like > System:::Socket:::Pair::open(). Yikes. > > My vote is for \.

> OG>>BUT the discussion is not only about possibility but also about what you > OG>>would like. The ":" for example would work if mandatory whitespace would > OG>>be introduced for the ternary BUT this is very very bad. > > If my vote is counted (not that I asked for it :) then I vote against all > funky syntax, present and future. :: is only thing that is obvious and > somehow connected to the world of PHP as we know it now.

> OG>>BUT the discussion is not only about possibility but also about what you > OG>>would like. The ":" for example would work if mandatory whitespace would > OG>>be introduced for the ternary BUT this is very very bad. > > If my vote is counted (not that I asked for it :) then I vote against all > funky syntax, present and future. :: is only thing that is obvious and > somehow connected to the world of PHP as we know it now.