GSoC

php.internals

Marcus Börger

19 years ago
Hello guys, PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets we put the following on php.net. Any comments? --------------- The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google Summer of Code. We are still looking for project ideas of interested students. In case you want to spend your summer with your favorite open source project, PHP, and get some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should contact us at internals@php.net. The deadline for submitting ideas is the 24th of March 2007. The current list of ideas can be seen here http://php.net/ideas. If you have not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here http://code.google.com/soc. --------------- Best regards, Marcus

Antony Dovgal

19 years ago
On 03/15/2007 05:50 PM, Marcus Boerger wrote:
> Hello guys, > > PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets we put the > following on php.net. Any comments? > > --------------- > The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google Summer of Code. > We are still looking for project ideas of interested students. In case you > want to spend your summer with your favorite open source project, PHP, and get > some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should contact us at > internals@php.net. The deadline for submitting ideas is the 24th of March 2007. > The current list of ideas can be seen here http://php.net/ideas. If you have > not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here > http://code.google.com/soc. > ---------------
No objections. Hannes also has some ideas on improving our bug tracker as a GSoC project.
-- Wbr, Antony Dovgal

Derick Rethans

19 years ago
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Antony Dovgal wrote:
> Hannes also has some ideas on improving our bug tracker as a GSoC project.
And I am thinking about this: http://derickrethans.nl/wanted_dbgp_xdebug_client.php Do you guys think that would qualify as php project as well? regards, Derick

Lukas Kahwe Smith

19 years ago
Derick Rethans wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Antony Dovgal wrote: > >> Hannes also has some ideas on improving our bug tracker as a GSoC project. > > And I am thinking about this: > http://derickrethans.nl/wanted_dbgp_xdebug_client.php > > Do you guys think that would qualify as php project as well?
Hell yeah! regards, Lukas

Richard Lynch

19 years ago
On Thu, March 15, 2007 10:08 am, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> Derick Rethans wrote: >> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Antony Dovgal wrote: >> >>> Hannes also has some ideas on improving our bug tracker as a GSoC >>> project. >> >> And I am thinking about this: >> http://derickrethans.nl/wanted_dbgp_xdebug_client.php >> >> Do you guys think that would qualify as php project as well? > > Hell yeah!
They could always do it in PHP GTK :-)
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Hannes Magnusson

19 years ago
On 3/15/07, Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Antony Dovgal wrote: > > > Hannes also has some ideas on improving our bug tracker as a GSoC project. > > And I am thinking about this: > http://derickrethans.nl/wanted_dbgp_xdebug_client.php > > Do you guys think that would qualify as php project as well?
After allowing PHPUnit ideas I can't see any problems with adding xdebug ideas too. xdebug even exists in pecl so technically it is under php.net, right? :) -Hannes

Marcus Börger

19 years ago
Hello Derick, We are in the collection phase right now. We can always decline projects or prioritize project close to core PHP during the dicsussion phase anyway. best regards marcus Thursday, March 15, 2007, 3:58:31 PM, you wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Antony Dovgal wrote:
>> Hannes also has some ideas on improving our bug tracker as a GSoC project.
> And I am thinking about this: > http://derickrethans.nl/wanted_dbgp_xdebug_client.php
> Do you guys think that would qualify as php project as well?
> regards, > Derick
Best regards, Marcus

Hannes Magnusson

19 years ago
On 3/15/07, Antony Dovgal <antony@zend.com> wrote:
> On 03/15/2007 05:50 PM, Marcus Boerger wrote: > > Hello guys, > > > > PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets we put the > > following on php.net. Any comments? > > > > --------------- > > The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google Summer of Code. > > We are still looking for project ideas of interested students. In case you > > want to spend your summer with your favorite open source project, PHP, and get > > some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should contact us at > > internals@php.net. The deadline for submitting ideas is the 24th of March 2007. > > The current list of ideas can be seen here http://php.net/ideas. If you have > > not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here > > http://code.google.com/soc. > > --------------- > > No objections. > > Hannes also has some ideas on improving our bug tracker as a GSoC project.
Right. Allowing attachments (.diff, blocking .php as reproduce cases shouldn't be more than 20lines anyway), tracking CVS commits, status/category/assignment history... And a little look&feel update wouldn't hurt either... -Hannes

Ilia A.

19 years ago
Ca we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP by creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project, but in terms of improving PHP as a language it would be exceptionally useful. Probably more so then any one extension that can come out of GSoC. On 15-Mar-07, at 10:50 AM, Marcus Boerger wrote:
> Hello guys, > > PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets we put > the > following on php.net. Any comments? > > --------------- > The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google > Summer of Code. > We are still looking for project ideas of interested students. In > case you > want to spend your summer with your favorite open source project, > PHP, and get > some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should > contact us at > internals@php.net. The deadline for submitting ideas is the 24th of > March 2007. > The current list of ideas can be seen here http://php.net/ideas. If > you have > not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here > http://code.google.com/soc. > --------------- > > Best regards, > Marcus > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >
Ilia Alshanetsky

Marcus Börger

19 years ago
Hello Ilia, of course we can. The question is how do we find a student for ideas we have? best regards marcus Thursday, March 15, 2007, 4:21:01 PM, you wrote:
> Ca we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP by > creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project, but in > terms of improving PHP as a language it would be exceptionally > useful. Probably more so then any one extension that can come out of > GSoC.
> On 15-Mar-07, at 10:50 AM, Marcus Boerger wrote:
>> Hello guys, >> >> PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets we put >> the >> following on php.net. Any comments? >> >> --------------- >> The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google >> Summer of Code. >> We are still looking for project ideas of interested students. In >> case you >> want to spend your summer with your favorite open source project, >> PHP, and get >> some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should >> contact us at >> internals@php.net. The deadline for submitting ideas is the 24th of >> March 2007. >> The current list of ideas can be seen here http://php.net/ideas. If >> you have >> not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here >> http://code.google.com/soc. >> --------------- >> >> Best regards, >> Marcus >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >>
> Ilia Alshanetsky
Best regards, Marcus

Lukas Kahwe Smith

19 years ago
Marcus Boerger wrote:
> Hello Ilia, > > of course we can. The question is how do we find a student for ideas we > have?
one we have a fairly complete overview of ideas .. we can have a few of us blog the world :) regards, Lukas

Tijnema !

19 years ago
On 3/15/07, Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net> wrote:
> Hello Ilia, > > of course we can. The question is how do we find a student for ideas we > have? > > best regards > marcus
I'm a student :) I'm not sure what the requirements for this are, but i've programmed a lot in PHP and C/C++. Tijnema

Marcus Börger

19 years ago
Hello Tijnema, cool, have a look at the site then. If Ilia didn't update it just wait a bit - we are having network problems here during the conference. best regards marcus Thursday, March 15, 2007, 10:09:11 PM, you wrote:
> On 3/15/07, Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net> wrote: >> Hello Ilia, >> >> of course we can. The question is how do we find a student for ideas we >> have? >> >> best regards >> marcus
> I'm a student :)
> I'm not sure what the requirements for this are, but i've programmed a > lot in PHP and C/C++.
> Tijnema >> >> Thursday, March 15, 2007, 4:21:01 PM, you wrote: >> >> > Ca we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP by >> > creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project, but in >> > terms of improving PHP as a language it would be exceptionally >> > useful. Probably more so then any one extension that can come out of >> > GSoC. >> >> >> > On 15-Mar-07, at 10:50 AM, Marcus Boerger wrote: >> >> >> Hello guys, >> >> >> >> PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets we put >> >> the >> >> following on php.net. Any comments? >> >> >> >> --------------- >> >> The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google >> >> Summer of Code. >> >> We are still looking for project ideas of interested students. In >> >> case you >> >> want to spend your summer with your favorite open source project, >> >> PHP, and get >> >> some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should >> >> contact us at >> >> internals@php.net. The deadline for submitting ideas is the 24th of >> >> March 2007. >> >> The current list of ideas can be seen here http://php.net/ideas. If >> >> you have >> >> not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here >> >> http://code.google.com/soc. >> >> --------------- >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >> -- >> >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >>
Best regards, Marcus

Tijnema !

19 years ago
On 3/15/07, Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net> wrote:
> Hello Tijnema, > > cool, have a look at the site then. If Ilia didn't update it just wait a > bit - we are having network problems here during the conference. > > best regards > marcus
Hi, I read a lot of text, just for information and i like the idea of GSoC. There are some interesting things on the PHP Ideas list, and it looks like this idea is the simplest one. As the phpt file structure is quite easy and there's (AFAIK) no knowledge of C/C++ needed. Only a little bit PHP programming, and writing the expected result :) But i have also some ideas, but i have no idea if it is possible or useful in PHP. For example i'd like to see support for handling audio/video files in PHP, to do all kind of music processing in PHP, or create music streams directly from within a website. I haven't seen this on any other web based programming language yet. Kind Regards, Tijnema ps. Yes i know the oggvorbis PECL package, but this is only for OGG.

Marcus Börger

19 years ago
Hello Tijnema, we have a few PECL extensions that deal with audio stuff. So it is possible but that definitively requires a lot of C skills. Apply for any of the ideas as a student on the GSoC page if you like. best regards marcus Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 9:21:21 PM, you wrote:
> On 3/15/07, Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net> wrote: >> Hello Tijnema, >> >> cool, have a look at the site then. If Ilia didn't update it just wait a >> bit - we are having network problems here during the conference. >> >> best regards >> marcus
> Hi,
> I read a lot of text, just for information and i like the idea of > GSoC. There are some interesting things on the PHP Ideas list, and it > looks like this idea is the simplest one. As the phpt file structure > is quite easy and there's (AFAIK) no knowledge of C/C++ needed. Only a > little bit PHP programming, and writing the expected result :)
> But i have also some ideas, but i have no idea if it is possible or > useful in PHP. For example i'd like to see support for handling > audio/video files in PHP, to do all kind of music processing in PHP, > or create music streams directly from within a website. I haven't seen > this on any other web based programming language yet.
> Kind Regards,
> Tijnema
> ps. Yes i know the oggvorbis PECL package, but this is only for OGG. >> >> Thursday, March 15, 2007, 10:09:11 PM, you wrote: >> >> > On 3/15/07, Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net> wrote: >> >> Hello Ilia, >> >> >> >> of course we can. The question is how do we find a student for ideas we >> >> have? >> >> >> >> best regards >> >> marcus >> >> > I'm a student :) >> >> > I'm not sure what the requirements for this are, but i've programmed a >> > lot in PHP and C/C++. >> >> > Tijnema >> >> >> >> Thursday, March 15, 2007, 4:21:01 PM, you wrote: >> >> >> >> > Ca we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP by >> >> > creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project, but in >> >> > terms of improving PHP as a language it would be exceptionally >> >> > useful. Probably more so then any one extension that can come out of >> >> > GSoC. >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 15-Mar-07, at 10:50 AM, Marcus Boerger wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Hello guys, >> >> >> >> >> >> PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets we put >> >> >> the >> >> >> following on php.net. Any comments? >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------- >> >> >> The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google >> >> >> Summer of Code. >> >> >> We are still looking for project ideas of interested students. In >> >> >> case you >> >> >> want to spend your summer with your favorite open source project, >> >> >> PHP, and get >> >> >> some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should >> >> >> contact us at >> >> >> internals@php.net. The deadline for submitting ideas is the 24th of >> >> >> March 2007. >> >> >> The current list of ideas can be seen here http://php.net/ideas. If >> >> >> you have >> >> >> not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here >> >> >> http://code.google.com/soc. >> >> >> --------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> >> >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> Marcus >> >>
Best regards, Marcus

Tijnema !

19 years ago
On 3/20/07, Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net> wrote:
> Hello Tijnema, > > we have a few PECL extensions that deal with audio stuff. So it is > possible but that definitively requires a lot of C skills. Apply for > any of the ideas as a student on the GSoC page if you like. > > best regards > marcus
Hi Marcus, I'm not sure about which PECL extensions you are talking, i can only find one for OGGvorbis support. I have quite a lot C skills, i think it's not a real big problem to write it (at least for me). But as you know it is impossible to write such thing in my own (or work for a year or more on it). And well the question is, will it be useful? It's nice if it's built into PHP then, but what if there's no interest for it? Of course i want to apply for an idea, but just don't know which to choose :) Kind Regards, Tijnema

Sebastian Bergmann

19 years ago
Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:
> Can we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP by > creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project, but in > terms of improving PHP as a language it would be exceptionally useful.
MySQL has exactly the same project (including more QA related ones). I will add it to ideas.php.
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Guilherme Blanco

19 years ago
Hey, If I had more C/C++ expertise than I currently have, I'd like to apply for it. The worst part of a good project is its conception. As long as you have an idea and publish it waiting for other's help, it's enough. Try putting all your ideas online and you'll see that are more people interested to help PHP to get better than you even imagine. Sorry, I decided to not take part of this discussion, but Marcus said a wrong thing and I have to put my opinions. =) Cheers, -- Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com URL: http://blog.bisna.com São Carlos - SP/Brazil

Sebastian Bergmann

19 years ago
Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:
> Ca we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP by > creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project
Another QA-related project idea: a rewrite of run-tests.php. Marcus and I discussed this a while ago when I brainstormed on a rewrite of bench.php.
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Zoe Slattery

19 years ago
Hey Ilia This is a fantastic idea! And as for not being complex - actually I think it is quite a challenge. I (and a couple of colleagues) have spent a bit of time over the past two months trying to work out how best to do this, you need to get a pretty good idea of how PHP works in order to be able to write the tests. This might not seem to hard to you who are already so familiar with the internals but - for a student that wanted to get a good understanding of how PHP works - this would be a great project. And of course - gaining this kind of understanding in PHP means that you get to understand general principles that apply to other languages. Zoe IBM Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: